I will dutifully report on yet another professional’s opinion about the research literature on antidepressants. This time the “antidepressant is just a placebo effect” argument comes from a psychologist.
Irving Kirsch, a professor of psychology at the University of Hull in the U.K., says that antidepressants are nothing more than fancy and expensive placebos. He, of course, does not say this in a vacuum. No, of course not. He’s saying this in promoting his new book, The Emperor’s New Drugs (which, you know, is a “funny” play on the phrase “the emperor’s new clothes”).
Read on for a quick deconstruction of his argument (his argument as presented in an interview online, anyways).
The crux of the issue for me comes down to a question similar to this one: What about the hundreds of research studies published in the past 4 decades showing that antidepressants are better than placebo, or do have a positive impact on treatment? How do you explain all of that prior data without seeming like some kind of conspiracy theorist?
Kirsch has an answer.
Nevertheless, many studies suggest that 
antidepressant drugs do have an edge over 
placebos. How do you account for that?
When you do a clinical trial, you tell people that they might get a placebo. When researchers give placebos, what they are trying to control for is the expectancy of improvement, which can produce a sense of hope. You also tell them that the active drug causes side effects and what those side effects are. If I were a patient in one of these trials, I’d be wondering, well, what am I getting? And if I’ve started noticing side effects, and especially the side effects that had been described to me, I would no longer be “blind.” I would think, “Oh, my mouth is dry, that’s great — that means I got the active drug.” That would further increase my expectation that the drug was going to help. In the few studies where that has been assessed, about 
80 percent of patients do figure out what group they are in. So it’s actually the side effects, the undesirable chemical effects of these drugs, that cause subjects on antidepressants to do a little better than those on the placebo.
So his answer is simple — people know they are on the active treatment. All these decades of experimental design research — the kind of stuff we predicate the very foundation of all scientific knowledge when it comes to a drug’s effect in humans — is flawed. Fundamentally flawed. “Blind” placebo studies aren’t really blind to anyone.
There’s some truth to his argument. There is research to suggest that blinded randomized placebo control studies aren’t as randomized or blinded as we might think. I’ll give him that.
But that means that virtually all research that has relied on this kind of study design is flawed and useless. Not just for antidepressants, but for virtually any psychiatric medication (and many others as well).
This line of reasoning also seems to call into other types of treatment as well. How can you show the same effect isn’t happening in all those blinded control studies of cognitive-behavioral therapy? One could argue it’s even worse for those types of treatment, as all too often, the “control” group didn’t receive any kind of placebo — they were placed on a wait-list for treatment. Of course some sort of human interaction with another human being is going to come out on top.
Even if your control group was “education” or “social talk,” I think most people are cognizant enough that they’re not engaging in psychotherapy.
Is this the new house of cards we have built? By pulling apart one set of studies, isn’t it possible to use the same logic and reasoning to pull apart virtually any scientific study done on the subjective human nature of “feeling better” or “improvement” on symptom checklists?
Read the full interview: Psychologist Says Antidepressants Are Just Fancy Placebos
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I don’t doubt that placebos have been given to patients from time to time. It may be a method of treatment in some cases. However, I find it incredibly hard to believe that every medication for these cases or studies have been placebos.
I agree with this idea of placebo if not something worse.
I try not to do any psychotherapy when the patient is «on drugs».
I ask him to finish the medical treatment and come later to psychotherapy or negotiate with the psysician to drop it 1 or 2 months after the beginig of psychotherapy.
Mário de Noronha, PhD, DtH.
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I agree somewhat. At time I’ve seen VERY LITTLE benefit from SSRIs and some other less evasive psychotropics (think buspar or NDRIs or NRIs). However, MH patients need to given the option for meds. period. I am a psychologist by the way. My thought is that my behavioral treatments are superior to most psychotropics… with this rather large exception (here is where I think PSYCHOLOGY MESSES UP). Put aside, the diagnosis or disorder piece, which may drive treatment, there are just certain patients that do NOT benefit from psychotherapy (CBT, psyhodynamic, supportive, extensional, etc.). These individuals needs meds. One one hand these are the more serve disorders (Bipolar I — [side note: I do not support BP-II dx or its derivatives] and other patients who need meds are the severe psychotic do’s and their derivatives. I will had very high anxiety and extreme insomnia as really/ truly need psychotropics as the start of treatment.
But on top of this, there are just some regular depressed, minor anxiety symptom-ed – patients that also need meds -and- CBT, etc. just isn’t a good option. period. One strength as a psychologist or psychologist(s) have is the assessment/ testing piece of our craft, which helps predict patient outcomes for me. Anyway, I think psychology has failed to assert their knowledge of the a more psychologically orientated model vs. medical model and meet MDs and health care half way on this one — doing this helps predict who is going to get better and respond to treatment and -vs- who is going to get addicted to Benzos, etc. or not response to treatment. Finally, I also believe there is a certain subset (speaking from a psychoanalytic model– even though I am of a behavioral medicine orientation– there is / are a subset of patients much more toward the psychotic/ borderline end of the spectrum — these people have reality testing in tact– but they will never benefit from psychotherapy (even DBT). They need risk management and meds, and may look like promising patients at in-take.
I used Risperdal for some time and that was very bad , terrible , I told to my doctor that my voices are much lover and that I can live hospital just to avoid Risperdal again . I think many people are going to tell the same just to escape Risperdal . Also after using Risperdal people are not coming back but after placebo they are not scared to come back . i would never again take Risperdal.
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